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Sept. 15, 2020

Just Do It!

Just Do It!

In this episode, Minneapolis based Drag Queen, Lala Luzious chats with pop artist Trent Park about his music, career, dating life, and the importance of putting yourself out there. Follow Trent Park! Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/trentparkyoutube...


In this episode, Minneapolis based Drag Queen, Lala Luzious chats with pop artist Trent Park about his music, career, dating life, and the importance of putting yourself out there. Follow Trent Park! www.trentparkmusic.com Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/trentparkyoutube Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/officialtrentparkmusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trentpark/  Need another snack? Head on over to www.snacksizepodcast.com  Need another snack? Head on over to www.snacksizepodcast.com Like Snack Size: The Podcast on Facebook Follow Snack Size: The Podcast on Twitter: @podcast_snack  If you are a new listener to Snack Size, we would love to hear from you! Don’t be afraid to say hello at lala@snacksizepodcast.com
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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:05.519 Hey snacks, welcome to season two of snacks eyes, the podcast that will 2 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:10.269 drag you into your most fabulous life. I'm your host, rather lushes, 3 00:00:10.470 --> 00:00:14.390 also known as the snack of the twin cities, a drag queen that twirled 4 00:00:14.429 --> 00:00:18.710 her way into podcasting, and the rest is a dream come true, and 5 00:00:18.989 --> 00:00:25.420 that's exactly what this podcast is about, making your dreams happen for you fabulously. 6 00:00:25.899 --> 00:00:29.899 This season we are continuing our journey in finding out what makes a happy 7 00:00:30.019 --> 00:00:34.340 and fulfilled life, going places we've never been before. Don't forget that, 8 00:00:34.500 --> 00:00:38.689 when it comes to your potential, the sky is the limit and it's never 9 00:00:38.729 --> 00:00:42.210 a bad time to be who you are. Get you a snack, because 10 00:00:42.210 --> 00:00:47.530 your fabulous life starts now. I've been sitting there drinking. Now I'm thinking, 11 00:00:47.649 --> 00:00:53.560 what's guess me? No Boma bullet ever do it. No Man, 12 00:00:54.039 --> 00:01:00.280 no ghost. One thing makes my skin keep going that fun things. You 13 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:07.950 Bust News, and some of you I'm gonna I'll woke up from the night 14 00:01:07.390 --> 00:01:19.980 falling and guns, sad life. What I'M gonna do? Hey snacks, 15 00:01:21.420 --> 00:01:25.819 you are listening to the single scare me most from my guests for this episode. 16 00:01:26.379 --> 00:01:30.299 This guess is a soul full, spooky pop artist raised in Syracuse, 17 00:01:30.420 --> 00:01:34.129 New York and now lives in Los Angeles. He is the son of two 18 00:01:34.250 --> 00:01:38.489 ministers and first fell in love with music during his upbringing in the church. 19 00:01:38.090 --> 00:01:42.170 Now he writes his own songs as an indie artist with no management or backing. 20 00:01:42.569 --> 00:01:48.400 He is completely self produced, whether it's a catchy tune or a stunning 21 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:52.480 music visual this, guess, is an example of what it means to live 22 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:57.200 your dreams. Welcome the snack size, Trent Park. Let's give him a 23 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:02.390 call. Hi and tried and welcome to snack size. Hi, thanks so 24 00:02:02.430 --> 00:02:07.349 much for having me said it. I am so excited. So scare me. 25 00:02:07.430 --> 00:02:09.509 Most is my new favorite thing. I love the beat. So I 26 00:02:09.550 --> 00:02:13.870 would love to hear about what inspired that single and what is the story behind 27 00:02:13.909 --> 00:02:16.340 it. Yeah, so very most was like an idea. I always had 28 00:02:16.819 --> 00:02:21.580 this concept of love. Is like a villain, like villainizing the idea of 29 00:02:21.699 --> 00:02:25.340 love. I think love is always persona fied as this like beautiful, magical 30 00:02:25.500 --> 00:02:31.449 thing. But I think for me, just like my experience of love is 31 00:02:31.569 --> 00:02:37.250 like I'm very empathetic and so like what I go on dates. Not Saying 32 00:02:37.250 --> 00:02:39.729 that I fall in love but the idea of love is always present. So, 33 00:02:39.930 --> 00:02:43.289 like when I wrote this song, I kind of got an idea of 34 00:02:43.370 --> 00:02:46.039 like, okay, let's say this was a Disney love story, but, 35 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:51.199 like we put, love is like the ultimate villain of it of because, 36 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:53.919 you know, love ends up makes us the most vulnerable, I think, 37 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:58.120 and you see, the most like powerful people when they fall in love, 38 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.789 they become this completely other type of person. So I just want to do 39 00:03:00.990 --> 00:03:04.990 like in terms of scared me most, like I just made like I'm not 40 00:03:05.310 --> 00:03:08.110 afraid of like demons or ghosts or anything, when it comes to the idea 41 00:03:08.150 --> 00:03:12.509 of love, I get kind of, you know, scared of it because 42 00:03:13.020 --> 00:03:15.460 you become vulnerable and you have no control what the other person feels. You 43 00:03:15.580 --> 00:03:21.020 just know the love that you feel. I read a really interesting interview with 44 00:03:21.180 --> 00:03:24.379 you on hbycom and one of the things you said is that you went on 45 00:03:24.419 --> 00:03:29.610 a lot of great dates, but it ultimately felt like you were dating ghosts, 46 00:03:29.689 --> 00:03:31.169 and I thought that was such a powerful statement to make a specially in 47 00:03:31.250 --> 00:03:35.169 relation to this song. I know that for me, I personally believe that 48 00:03:35.210 --> 00:03:38.449 people coming to our lives were a reason, a season or a lifetime, 49 00:03:38.889 --> 00:03:42.360 and it kind of sounds like this song is about the seasonal people. So 50 00:03:42.599 --> 00:03:46.039 how do those relationships affect you personally and as an artist just living in Los 51 00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:49.919 Angeles? I emergently from New York. I've been out here about six or 52 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:55.710 seven years, and I mean the dating game is real, like like it's 53 00:03:55.789 --> 00:03:59.949 just so crazy. It's just like these different levels, and the one thing 54 00:03:59.990 --> 00:04:03.789 I really like about La dating scene is like the majority of guys I go 55 00:04:03.870 --> 00:04:08.750 out on dates with, I'm attracted to delf motivated people. They don't have 56 00:04:08.789 --> 00:04:12.979 to be successful, but like just doing their own thing, and I respect 57 00:04:13.060 --> 00:04:16.699 that. You'll always be second in a career type mindset. So I kind 58 00:04:16.740 --> 00:04:20.939 of when I did like start dating all these guys or whatever, I'd already 59 00:04:20.980 --> 00:04:25.730 feel sack it right off the bat, which is fine, but you just 60 00:04:25.810 --> 00:04:28.810 kind of feel like you know their first love is like their career, which 61 00:04:28.850 --> 00:04:32.649 I get it because it's kind of mine to but yeah, like dating ghosts 62 00:04:32.769 --> 00:04:36.529 is like it's a real thing. Would you say music is your most consistent 63 00:04:36.649 --> 00:04:40.480 relationship in life? I would say so, because, I mean I had 64 00:04:40.519 --> 00:04:45.120 to love and hate relationship with music for my like entire life, but the 65 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:48.240 love was always the first one that irritation of it is when I kind of 66 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:51.639 turn it into a business. You know, I was exploiting my talent to 67 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:57.550 do like art that I necessarily didn't resonate with as a creative. But that 68 00:04:57.829 --> 00:05:01.149 love of music has always been consistent. When you're able to put that emotion 69 00:05:01.389 --> 00:05:05.149 that you fell into a song and then feel the emotion back when you hear 70 00:05:05.230 --> 00:05:10.379 it, it's very cathartic and that's kind of like my therapy. So so 71 00:05:11.100 --> 00:05:14.699 one of the things I want to do with this particular podcast is try to 72 00:05:14.819 --> 00:05:17.339 help people find their inspiration and I know that for me, I tried a 73 00:05:17.819 --> 00:05:20.930 ton of things before I found out that drag was that one thing that really 74 00:05:21.089 --> 00:05:24.970 just lit me up. When did you know that music was that type of 75 00:05:25.009 --> 00:05:28.089 thing for you? I could kind of pinpoint it, to be honest, 76 00:05:28.410 --> 00:05:30.129 and a lot of people can't, but when I was young, I think 77 00:05:30.129 --> 00:05:33.129 I was like ten or eleven, or maybe even younger, to be honest, 78 00:05:33.170 --> 00:05:38.959 but I got a piano for Christmas and I remember like coming up with 79 00:05:39.120 --> 00:05:44.120 ideas in my head and letting my fingers do it on the keys and then 80 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:47.319 hearing it back and just like manipulating the music. So it kind of that 81 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.189 love came very, very easily, where I just like it was like my 82 00:05:51.389 --> 00:05:56.709 internal voice within doing music and all that stuff. So I think that's where 83 00:05:56.709 --> 00:06:00.509 I kind of can pinpoint my love of music. But I grew up in 84 00:06:00.550 --> 00:06:04.139 the church and my parents are pastors. Once I like learned the piano, 85 00:06:04.579 --> 00:06:10.139 I kind of got forced to like play piano for people and and for the 86 00:06:10.259 --> 00:06:14.540 congregation or whatever, and the black church is always like very unforgiving. They're 87 00:06:14.540 --> 00:06:15.819 always like you're doing really great, but they'll like, you know, if 88 00:06:15.819 --> 00:06:18.370 they're not into it, they're not into it. And I love, you 89 00:06:18.490 --> 00:06:21.970 know, I love being in that demographic because you get called out, but 90 00:06:23.170 --> 00:06:26.129 in a very like you know, you just had to have thick skin. 91 00:06:26.649 --> 00:06:30.449 But the cool thing about like learning piano was, especially within the community that 92 00:06:30.490 --> 00:06:34.160 I grew up in, is like they grew up on emotion rather than like 93 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:39.120 the analytical side, like a lot of people that I played with then. 94 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:44.600 It like no scales or key or BPM or whatever, but they knew the 95 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.430 emotion and the heartbeat of a record and how to play and how to sing. 96 00:06:47.709 --> 00:06:51.269 Growing up in that environment really helped me kind of find my voice within 97 00:06:51.389 --> 00:06:56.230 that music. I actually stumble across an interview from you in two thousand and 98 00:06:56.230 --> 00:06:59.870 fourteen where you're talking about writing, lyrics and poetry, and you said, 99 00:06:59.910 --> 00:07:02.180 since I can remember, I have been a person fascinated by the art of 100 00:07:02.339 --> 00:07:08.220 conversation. See my father work as a minister, crafting words to motivate a 101 00:07:08.339 --> 00:07:12.819 congregation, is where I was first exposed to the power of words. Do 102 00:07:13.019 --> 00:07:16.250 you still incorporate that time into your life, into your music today? You 103 00:07:16.370 --> 00:07:20.170 know, I actually they have my masters in creative writing and I have my 104 00:07:20.250 --> 00:07:26.970 Undergrad in literature and philosophy. So I really genuinely like I took my fascination 105 00:07:27.129 --> 00:07:31.439 to another level of really like exposing myself to it in the most dramatic of 106 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:36.560 ways to really educate myself. Of Okay, words are very fascinating, but 107 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:42.720 like, how did the greats, the great philosophers and a great writers and 108 00:07:42.839 --> 00:07:46.829 historic historians really motivate these people and how could they be so classic from like 109 00:07:47.149 --> 00:07:50.990 thousands of years ago with their words? And a lot of it was I 110 00:07:51.230 --> 00:07:56.189 took of, you know, emotion and storytelling. Like a lot of people 111 00:07:56.230 --> 00:08:01.259 like storytelling and they connect with emotion and keeping it really broad, like a 112 00:08:01.420 --> 00:08:07.500 broad kind of topic where every type of person can rely on the spectrum, 113 00:08:07.660 --> 00:08:11.139 so more people could connect with it, it could become more classic. So 114 00:08:11.220 --> 00:08:16.009 I for sure the art of conversation is Super Key and all my music I've 115 00:08:16.089 --> 00:08:20.209 done, the single after scarmy most was don't take my life away, which 116 00:08:20.209 --> 00:08:24.769 is a narrative on the social injustice is happening within the black community, and 117 00:08:24.050 --> 00:08:28.360 I always just want to have it a conversation piece and open thing where like, 118 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.080 even if someone that was not a person of color or someone that's not 119 00:08:31.200 --> 00:08:37.360 in a marginalize demographic can resonate with that emotion and still kind of here at 120 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.240 the pain. I can definitely see where your mind is working in your writing 121 00:08:41.470 --> 00:08:45.669 to kind of bring people in and it. That's really effective. You are 122 00:08:45.789 --> 00:08:50.149 self produced and self promoting right now, right correct. I am a one 123 00:08:50.230 --> 00:08:54.190 man band. I have some people that support me within the arts, but 124 00:08:54.710 --> 00:08:58.059 the majority of my art direction, my writing production, filters through me. 125 00:08:58.379 --> 00:09:03.299 What has your experience been? This is selfpromoted artist. The really cool thing 126 00:09:03.419 --> 00:09:07.100 that I'm finding now, as a solo artist and completely, fully independent, 127 00:09:07.460 --> 00:09:13.129 literally every artwork, piece, graphic visual that I put on Youtube, everything 128 00:09:13.250 --> 00:09:18.330 is completely like produced by me. So it's a blessing in disguise, because 129 00:09:18.330 --> 00:09:22.250 I've always wanted a team and I want to management and distribution all this stuff. 130 00:09:22.649 --> 00:09:26.639 But I think I always live by the quote from Arthur ash start where 131 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.120 you are, use what you have and do what you can. I don't 132 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:35.039 have that right now. So I really value like learning all the processes from 133 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:39.389 like submitting my music to spotify and to curators and, you know, doing 134 00:09:39.429 --> 00:09:43.110 as much as I can to learn the entire scope of the business, because 135 00:09:43.149 --> 00:09:46.870 there's so many colors within the music business that I don't think people ever will 136 00:09:46.870 --> 00:09:50.870 understand unless they do it themselves. I've been doing it all all my myself. 137 00:09:50.070 --> 00:09:52.899 I'm kind of I'm not over it yet, but I'm soon to be 138 00:09:54.700 --> 00:09:58.740 my patients where my patients is wearing thin because, you know, with everything 139 00:09:58.860 --> 00:10:03.019 there's a bandwid and I think you know creativity, you do have a certain 140 00:10:03.019 --> 00:10:05.940 amount that you give out and you need to replenish yourself. To be honest, 141 00:10:05.940 --> 00:10:09.450 I do have a circle of people that motivate me that may not be 142 00:10:09.649 --> 00:10:13.649 part of my projects, but I'm they, you know, stimulate stimulate me 143 00:10:13.850 --> 00:10:18.090 doing this stuff and there are and their music. So that's really good. 144 00:10:18.250 --> 00:10:22.039 Having a good friendship base within that but I do. I've I've been slowly 145 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:28.840 picking pieces and people from various projects that I've worked on in the past to 146 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:35.000 kind of help me with my vision and that's just been such a blessing to 147 00:10:35.789 --> 00:10:39.110 to get their support. I can't wait till I get, you know, 148 00:10:39.309 --> 00:10:46.110 like funding and like I just my ideal dream is just to be do exactly 149 00:10:46.149 --> 00:10:48.389 what I do just but on a bigger platform. To what advice would you 150 00:10:48.429 --> 00:10:52.700 have for the creative people or the people who want to start something new and 151 00:10:52.740 --> 00:10:58.379 maybe it's entrepreneurial and putting themselves out there? I always advise people do it 152 00:10:58.940 --> 00:11:01.139 and and that's like such a simple phrase, but it's very complex. I 153 00:11:01.259 --> 00:11:05.409 have a lot of you know, people always ask advice of like well, 154 00:11:05.450 --> 00:11:07.210 how do I do and all this kind of stuff. And you know, 155 00:11:07.370 --> 00:11:13.169 in the beginning phases of creating art or starting Your Business or whatever whatever it 156 00:11:13.330 --> 00:11:18.250 is, you know there's a fear because a lot of people in their mind 157 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:22.639 they have really good content or they have a really good idea and they know 158 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.440 the level of that idea so high and when they're out putting it it's not 159 00:11:26.799 --> 00:11:31.320 meaning that idea within their head. And as creatives that's really difficult because you 160 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.870 know you want the best. As for your brand, we all know, 161 00:11:33.070 --> 00:11:37.590 like you got to look que have the right filter do this. Your brand 162 00:11:37.669 --> 00:11:41.149 has to be popping SB feature and yeah, kind of stuff. But like 163 00:11:41.309 --> 00:11:45.230 in the beginning, like really humble yourself and forgive yourself and let yourself go 164 00:11:45.470 --> 00:11:48.740 through these modes of creativity, because there's phases to it and it's there's such 165 00:11:48.779 --> 00:11:54.299 a beauty to becoming an entity and a lot of people think it's like an 166 00:11:54.340 --> 00:11:58.940 overnight thing or maybe they'll think I'll never happen for them, but I just 167 00:11:58.460 --> 00:12:01.889 is like just do it and forgive yourself. You're going to make some mistakes, 168 00:12:01.929 --> 00:12:05.049 it's going to get messy, it's going to get weird, it's may 169 00:12:05.129 --> 00:12:07.970 not look exactly like how you do it, but with each thing that you 170 00:12:09.090 --> 00:12:11.730 output, whether it's a song, whether it's like a fashion design or like 171 00:12:11.929 --> 00:12:16.360 doing makeup for drag or whatever you're going to do, you know it may 172 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.120 not be the best, but it's going to be next time it's going to 173 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:20.759 be better and it could be in the next time could be worse. But 174 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:26.559 just know if you're consistent, consistency will always bread a good characters be your 175 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:31.750 own fan, like even like now, every post I make on Instagram, 176 00:12:31.309 --> 00:12:35.350 I'm always the first to like it, like once I post it, I 177 00:12:35.549 --> 00:12:39.110 like it because if I even if no one comments or likes it, I'm 178 00:12:39.110 --> 00:12:41.830 going to be like, I back it. I made this art and I'm 179 00:12:41.830 --> 00:12:46.100 proud of it, so I'm always the first. Like, I have a 180 00:12:46.179 --> 00:12:48.539 phrase I always say you need to be able to cosign your own bullshit, 181 00:12:48.620 --> 00:12:52.299 and I tell that to my dry kids all the time. You may go 182 00:12:52.379 --> 00:12:54.460 out on stage, you know, knowing that it's a mess, but you 183 00:12:54.580 --> 00:12:58.850 need to sell it like it is a you know, couture garment, whatever 184 00:12:58.929 --> 00:13:01.370 the case maybe, and people love that, I think. I think more 185 00:13:01.409 --> 00:13:07.009 than ever, people value honesty and transparency and I think the cosmetic perfectness of 186 00:13:07.370 --> 00:13:11.809 life is kind of over. I think people really love to see the human 187 00:13:11.850 --> 00:13:16.759 because we've seen so much auto tune and so much perfection on TV or reality 188 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.799 TV and stuff where when you see someone being a human and they're really trying, 189 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.360 I think people will always connect and empathize with that. So another thing 190 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:28.269 you said in one of the interviews. The quote is I personally think in 191 00:13:28.389 --> 00:13:33.230 artists should develop their own business practices, relationships, knowledge and crafts so that 192 00:13:33.350 --> 00:13:37.509 they can learn to be who they want to become. Have you had people 193 00:13:37.629 --> 00:13:41.190 in your life tried to change who you are and how did you deal with 194 00:13:41.309 --> 00:13:45.820 that? Yes, I think a lot of people come in, especially other 195 00:13:45.980 --> 00:13:52.580 creative business mind people will come in and they'll always have a perspective, which 196 00:13:52.620 --> 00:13:56.809 I will value a hundred percent, but there's something within an artist gut and 197 00:13:56.889 --> 00:14:01.370 they could just tell and they're like this ain't right. I'll try it, 198 00:14:01.929 --> 00:14:05.409 but it doesn't narrate well to my brand. So I've had people, you 199 00:14:05.529 --> 00:14:09.600 know, pitch music to me or even beyond set and give me ideas that 200 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:13.200 I don't necessarily resonate with. I always want to be a person with open 201 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:16.679 ears, but there does come a time and I think I've just because I've 202 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.200 been in the game for a little bit, where I really know my brand 203 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:24.309 and who I want to be. It's going to grow, it's going to 204 00:14:24.350 --> 00:14:26.629 be different in the future, I know that, but for now I really 205 00:14:26.750 --> 00:14:31.149 like know it. So I think just trust your gout with certain scenarios because, 206 00:14:31.710 --> 00:14:35.389 yeah, for me, people like will try to get it in and 207 00:14:35.830 --> 00:14:37.230 they'll see the work that you do and they want to put their name on 208 00:14:37.309 --> 00:14:41.019 it. In a bigger way when they really didn't do anything. But that's 209 00:14:41.059 --> 00:14:45.340 just that they'll be like, oh, I'm X Y Z and I'm like, 210 00:14:46.620 --> 00:14:50.899 prove it. One of the best pieces of advice I ever got from 211 00:14:50.899 --> 00:14:54.289 my English nature and college was that you should be mindful of what others think, 212 00:14:54.370 --> 00:14:58.649 but you should never write to please them, and I think that can 213 00:14:58.690 --> 00:15:03.250 apply to whatever type of art or you know undertaking that you wanted to apply 214 00:15:03.370 --> 00:15:05.730 to a strong sense of self is what's going to keep you grounded and going 215 00:15:05.889 --> 00:15:09.519 in this industry, and critique is wonderful, but you also have to keep 216 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.799 that sense of who you are absolutely. I think knowing who you are is 217 00:15:13.879 --> 00:15:20.200 evolving, but knowing your comfort levels and really praising like what you know in 218 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.190 your brand that you built, you should be confident with like never never died 219 00:15:24.230 --> 00:15:26.470 yourself. Speaking of evolving, another quote. You have an interview where you 220 00:15:26.590 --> 00:15:31.389 said I was scared to let my true art envision come to life because I 221 00:15:31.429 --> 00:15:35.230 was scared to fail, but now I am more confident than ever. Talk 222 00:15:35.309 --> 00:15:37.259 about the time in life where you were scared to fail and how you became 223 00:15:37.259 --> 00:15:41.100 who you are now. I think it was a lot of layers of things, 224 00:15:41.299 --> 00:15:45.740 one because like the output that I was doing with in my creativity wasn't 225 00:15:45.779 --> 00:15:48.059 matching what I saw in my head and that just really hurt me because, 226 00:15:48.379 --> 00:15:54.610 like I try to communicate myself and my artistic view through what I'm doing and 227 00:15:54.769 --> 00:16:00.450 it wasn't done properly and it was just getting me really irritated. And even 228 00:16:00.490 --> 00:16:04.480 even now, you know, like whether it's experiences or budget or whatever, 229 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.600 there was never like kind of fully coming out there, but kind of like 230 00:16:07.720 --> 00:16:11.200 we were kind of speaking of early, of just finding your confidence within your 231 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:17.600 flaws. Even within that past self exploration, like years ago, I was 232 00:16:17.720 --> 00:16:21.669 just growing into myself and a human being. Like I'm black, I'm Mexican 233 00:16:21.710 --> 00:16:27.549 in a Christian household, gay and primarily going to like a white school, 234 00:16:27.789 --> 00:16:33.419 but like living in in the city and like trying to find my identity with 235 00:16:33.460 --> 00:16:37.580 an all these different subcultures of who I was was really hard for me and 236 00:16:37.700 --> 00:16:41.379 I think even growing up as a teenager and adult, like I had to 237 00:16:41.500 --> 00:16:47.889 find my like place within the culture and the demographic and the you know, 238 00:16:48.009 --> 00:16:49.649 sexual identity of who I was, and it was kind of tricky and I 239 00:16:49.809 --> 00:16:55.210 it was hard for me to be confident because I didn't know that. But 240 00:16:55.690 --> 00:17:00.049 like living in Los Angeles and like seeing all these people and like seeing behind 241 00:17:00.090 --> 00:17:03.600 the Curin of like, Oh my God, I've seen you on TV or 242 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.920 like Oh, I see you're like on instagram of all these followers, and 243 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:11.079 then I've met with so many amazing people and they're like Yo, I have 244 00:17:11.240 --> 00:17:15.789 this problem or like this insecurity or x y Z, and just learning that 245 00:17:15.950 --> 00:17:18.789 all people are people and they have struggles just like me. That really like 246 00:17:19.069 --> 00:17:22.029 encourage me, not the fact that they were going through stuff, but just 247 00:17:22.190 --> 00:17:26.109 knowing that I wasn't alone and anything. And it's still true this day of 248 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:33.140 Hollywood stars whoever like the prettiest people or most fit and like perfect skin and 249 00:17:33.220 --> 00:17:37.259 hair, like, are going through certains situations like we are. So that 250 00:17:37.380 --> 00:17:40.500 kind of just made me like, okay, forgive yourself, grow into this 251 00:17:40.579 --> 00:17:42.220 identity and just know that it's kind of evolved and you're going to get more 252 00:17:42.220 --> 00:17:48.650 and more confident. But you know, I think celebrating myself more helped with 253 00:17:48.849 --> 00:17:53.289 growing my identity of confidence, celebrating like the little things, you know, 254 00:17:53.490 --> 00:17:59.039 like I just started my youtube channel that I like have like awesome under a 255 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:02.039 four hundred followers, but I'm like yes, killing it, killing the guy 256 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.759 and like which eat each like thousand views or whatever. I'm just like celebrating. 257 00:18:08.000 --> 00:18:11.200 Well, Hey, four hundred isn't bad, if it makes you feel 258 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:14.869 any better. While I have tons of listeners on the podcast platforms, I 259 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:18.309 actually only have like thirteen followers on youtube, so just because youtube was really 260 00:18:18.349 --> 00:18:23.549 for podcast, but I would like a little bit more than that. I'm 261 00:18:23.950 --> 00:18:29.539 really glad that you touch on the identity stuff, because something I definitely want 262 00:18:29.539 --> 00:18:32.660 to talk about is your single don't take my life away. As we know, 263 00:18:32.859 --> 00:18:37.299 it's a very difficult and, you know, weird and interesting and in 264 00:18:37.380 --> 00:18:40.420 a good way and in bad ways time to be black and also to be 265 00:18:40.500 --> 00:18:42.650 black and gay. So I kind of want to know what inspired that song, 266 00:18:42.769 --> 00:18:45.450 where your head was at, how you came about writing it, what 267 00:18:45.650 --> 00:18:49.210 was your process? Yeah, I mean, man, that it was such 268 00:18:49.289 --> 00:18:56.279 a hard time during that week when floyd was murdered, because it's been happening 269 00:18:56.400 --> 00:19:00.359 for so long and it's just was like just it just broke, you know 270 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:03.599 when things just really break your heart, like it really broke me, to 271 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.880 be honest, when all the riots were happening and like I was here in 272 00:19:07.960 --> 00:19:12.950 La and my apartment and just like hearing helicopters and like seeing the craziness of 273 00:19:14.069 --> 00:19:18.069 it and the depth of it. It just really, really just brought this 274 00:19:18.710 --> 00:19:25.460 darkness over my whole mood, my whole energy, everything. The Sunday morning 275 00:19:25.500 --> 00:19:30.019 after that happened, I just like woke up just crying, like and I 276 00:19:30.140 --> 00:19:33.099 felt like I wasn't crying for myself. It was like because I've had a 277 00:19:33.180 --> 00:19:37.220 lot of, you know, racist scenarios that happened to me. My Dad 278 00:19:37.380 --> 00:19:44.289 has, my whole family has, my community has. So I just felt 279 00:19:44.369 --> 00:19:48.450 that like cry from like, like I call it like a cry from my 280 00:19:48.490 --> 00:19:52.480 ancestors, like I really felt it. So I ended up going to a 281 00:19:52.519 --> 00:19:57.400 bunch of Marcher marches protest. I knew I need to do something creative. 282 00:19:57.440 --> 00:20:00.599 I just didn't know what I was going to do. But during the march 283 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:04.319 everyone was chanting. I can't breathe, I can't breathe. I was with 284 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:08.069 a buddy and I was like this sounds like a song. So I pulled 285 00:20:08.069 --> 00:20:12.109 out my phone and voice memo that the chanting and I got into the studio 286 00:20:12.549 --> 00:20:15.869 with the producer and the crazy thing is with the process of that song, 287 00:20:17.190 --> 00:20:22.579 the entire verse is exactly what I sang the first time I've ad Lib like 288 00:20:22.819 --> 00:20:26.700 we didn't cut or added anything in terms of the Ity, you know, 289 00:20:26.779 --> 00:20:30.099 we darken the room. I was just all in my feels and I was 290 00:20:30.180 --> 00:20:33.420 just like Nanna, so I can't bring it, and it was just so 291 00:20:33.619 --> 00:20:38.569 emotional for me to like sing it and then wrote it the words the next 292 00:20:38.609 --> 00:20:42.970 day put it out like so quick because I'm just like I was inspired by 293 00:20:44.009 --> 00:20:48.490 a Nina Simon interview where she says an artist duty is to reflect the times. 294 00:20:48.529 --> 00:20:51.880 It's not a luxury to reflect the times, it's a duty for us 295 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.200 to reflect the times. So I'm like it's not perfectly. My voice isn't 296 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:59.759 perfect, like the production isn't exactly how I want it, but I'm like 297 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:03.240 this needs to be heard from me and it's a lot of people may be 298 00:21:03.430 --> 00:21:07.430 doing their own records, but I need to do my record well. It 299 00:21:07.589 --> 00:21:10.869 is an amazing song and I can definitely hear the realness and the you know, 300 00:21:10.950 --> 00:21:14.470 the raw emotion and in that definitely comes through. One more question. 301 00:21:14.710 --> 00:21:18.420 What do you think the secret to a happy and fulfilled life is just comfort 302 00:21:18.700 --> 00:21:22.339 in your flaws. Is just a beautiful, beautiful thing. To me, 303 00:21:22.660 --> 00:21:27.339 and even your perfection could be a flaw to someone else, but it ain't 304 00:21:27.339 --> 00:21:33.930 their business. I think the the secret to happiness is really finding balance within 305 00:21:33.329 --> 00:21:37.490 the emotion of whatever you feel. Say you're mad, say you're sad, 306 00:21:37.970 --> 00:21:42.450 whatever that feeling is, let yourself feel that, but find the balance within 307 00:21:42.529 --> 00:21:48.160 yourself of contentment and knowing that it's okay to hurt, it's okay to be 308 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.559 mad, it's okay whatever emotion you feel. It's okay. But just don't 309 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:57.000 sit in that too long and don't let that cloud your vision of your journey 310 00:21:57.039 --> 00:22:00.839 and who you are and who you're meant to be. What is next for 311 00:22:00.920 --> 00:22:03.589 you? What is next for me? Well, I always just encourage people 312 00:22:03.589 --> 00:22:08.190 to follow my youtube because Youtube and Instagram I'm very, very active and I 313 00:22:08.349 --> 00:22:12.109 like I take it very serious and I'll always give the best content and you 314 00:22:12.150 --> 00:22:17.779 kind of like see into my spooky pop type mind. Where can we find 315 00:22:17.819 --> 00:22:22.180 you online? So you can find me everywhere. It's at Trent Park, 316 00:22:22.460 --> 00:22:26.059 on Instagram, at trump park, as well as Youtube. Throw me a 317 00:22:26.140 --> 00:22:29.339 DM. I love talking to people too, so well, try and thank 318 00:22:29.380 --> 00:22:32.410 you so much for coming on, sack size. It was absolutely a pleasure. 319 00:22:32.450 --> 00:22:36.970 Yes, thank you and thanks for creating this platform for artist, creatives 320 00:22:37.089 --> 00:22:40.490 and people to talk about there, there art. I think it's a very 321 00:22:40.529 --> 00:22:44.519 powerful and needed so thank you all. Right, snacks, not as all 322 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:47.880 for today. I will see you next time. By snacks. Hey, 323 00:22:48.000 --> 00:22:52.039 snack I hope you enjoyed this episode. 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