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May 19, 2020

Double Snack with Jaidynn Fierce!

Double Snack with Jaidynn Fierce!

On this Double Snack episode of Snack Size, Minneapolis based drag queen Lala Luzious talks with RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 star Jaidynn Fierce and discusses her success, family, her new projects, and her tips for living a happy and fulfilled life!...


On this Double Snack episode of Snack Size, Minneapolis based drag queen Lala Luzious talks with RuPaul's Drag Race Season 7 star Jaidynn Fierce and discusses her success, family, her new projects, and her tips for living a happy and fulfilled life! Follow Jaidynn on Instagram at @jaidynnfierce Need another snack? Head on over to www.snacksizepodcast.com If you are a new listener to Snack Size, we would love to hear from you! Don’t be afraid to say hello at lala@snacksizepodcast.com Follow Snack Size: The Podcast on Twitter: @podcast_snack Follow Lala on Instagram: @lalaluzious _____________ Intro and Interlude Music for "Snack Size : The Podcast"  is Lioness (Instrumental) by DayFox https://soundcloud.com/dayfox Also featured in this episode is Jaidynn's single "Touch":  https://youtu.be/c22Ve9kPBLg
Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.240 --> 00:00:05.080 Hey, what's up world? Welcome to snack size, the podcast that will 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.669 drag you into your most fabulous life. I'm your host, Lolla Lush, 3 00:00:09.750 --> 00:00:13.669 has also known as the snack of the twin cities. I decided for myself 4 00:00:13.789 --> 00:00:16.629 that I can be whatever I want to be. So I decided to be 5 00:00:16.789 --> 00:00:20.629 a drag queen, and if I can live my dreams, you can to. 6 00:00:21.070 --> 00:00:24.699 The time has come to believe in yourself enough to turn your ideas into 7 00:00:24.780 --> 00:00:27.859 more than mere words. And, no matter what you were doing in life 8 00:00:27.899 --> 00:00:31.500 or where you want to go, I want to help you get there fabulously. 9 00:00:31.739 --> 00:00:40.929 Our double snack episode starts now. Ah, Hey, smack, kiss 10 00:00:41.009 --> 00:00:51.079 the beat dumb, episode five of Snacksie, beauty, beauty, body face, 11 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:59.439 fin beauty face, beauty, body face fat. Yes, snacks. 12 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:04.189 That is the single from our guests today for our very special double snack episode 13 00:01:04.310 --> 00:01:08.709 of snacks. Eye, our guests today needs no introduction. You watched her 14 00:01:08.790 --> 00:01:12.909 on Rupaul's drag race season seven, as she, in her words, worked 15 00:01:14.069 --> 00:01:18.189 that Puss all over the main stage. That's right, we have Jaden do 16 00:01:18.310 --> 00:01:22.500 your fears here at snack size podcast today and she's going to share a little 17 00:01:22.540 --> 00:01:26.340 bit about her life and how she has found happiness and success. As you 18 00:01:26.500 --> 00:01:30.180 know, we are all about social distancing here, so today we are going 19 00:01:30.219 --> 00:01:36.689 to use that good old phone a friend. Let's give Jaden Nicoll. Hi, 20 00:01:36.849 --> 00:01:40.689 Jaden, welcome to sack size. Hello, I'm so excited to join 21 00:01:40.730 --> 00:01:44.129 you this week. We are so excited to have you here. I am 22 00:01:44.170 --> 00:01:48.280 a very long time fan of Jaden's, which I will talk about and just 23 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.599 a minute, but first I want to ask you how are you and how 24 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.680 are you holding up during everything? What's going on in your world? Give 25 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.400 us a little update. So one thing that a lot of people don't know 26 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:01.549 about me is I am an introvert and an extrovert at the same time. 27 00:02:01.870 --> 00:02:07.189 So I actually am doing pretty well with this corona thing, because I do 28 00:02:07.469 --> 00:02:13.310 have times where I literally block myself out from social media the Internet and I 29 00:02:13.509 --> 00:02:16.300 do kind of have time to myself. So in a way this work for 30 00:02:16.379 --> 00:02:20.259 me because, you know, I'm already used to blocking things out and just 31 00:02:20.539 --> 00:02:24.020 focus in on Selfcare, taking care of myself, making sure that I am 32 00:02:24.139 --> 00:02:29.539 good, because being a drag queen can be a very, very draining thing. 33 00:02:29.780 --> 00:02:31.610 What do you do for Selfcare? I spent a lot of time just 34 00:02:31.889 --> 00:02:36.969 listening to music. Music is pretty much my drug that I don't smoke, 35 00:02:37.050 --> 00:02:40.050 I don't drink, so for me, my distraction has always been music and 36 00:02:40.330 --> 00:02:44.560 you know, any emotion that I'm feeling, I listen to that music. 37 00:02:44.719 --> 00:02:46.199 For the most part, they kind of recharge my batteries, I guess you 38 00:02:46.240 --> 00:02:50.919 could say. It's so important to recharge your batteries, especially for someone like 39 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.400 you who, I know, travels a lot and does a lot of gigs, 40 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:57.120 and even if you're not doing a gigs, you're doing things like recording 41 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:00.789 to Po podcast with me. So you have to you have to recharge those 42 00:03:00.830 --> 00:03:05.909 batteries. It's so important. One thing that you have always done, even 43 00:03:05.949 --> 00:03:10.550 before drag race, is offer tips and tutorials on how to do drag and 44 00:03:10.669 --> 00:03:15.539 you cover a variety of different topics, like from makeup to how to brand 45 00:03:15.580 --> 00:03:19.740 yourself to even how to audition for drag race. Actually, I don't know 46 00:03:19.819 --> 00:03:22.300 if you remember this, and I think it was like seven years ago, 47 00:03:22.580 --> 00:03:25.180 but but way before you are on the show, I was in my small 48 00:03:25.379 --> 00:03:30.370 little hometown and I am sure that you remember coming up as a queen, 49 00:03:30.449 --> 00:03:34.810 if you didn't have access to clubs, there was not the Youtube and the 50 00:03:34.889 --> 00:03:38.449 tutorials that there are now, right, right. So I had googled plus 51 00:03:38.530 --> 00:03:43.360 size drag queen and you were performing at play and Nashville and I was just 52 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.879 like that is what I want to do. So I messaged you. I 53 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:50.439 was like, I need help a costuming. Do you have anyscessis? And 54 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:53.960 you told me to go buy a sewing machine and on the previous episode of 55 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:58.710 this podcast I just talked about how I learned how to sew in the importance 56 00:03:58.789 --> 00:04:01.389 of doing that as to invest in myself. So that actually was because of 57 00:04:01.430 --> 00:04:05.430 you. So thank you for always offering advice. Of course, absolutely, 58 00:04:05.550 --> 00:04:11.340 absolutely. I think new drag Queens in this daytime and age, they have 59 00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:15.020 such an advantage. Obviously I was doing drag before I even saw or new 60 00:04:15.099 --> 00:04:17.699 about draggers. During that time, it either you had a drag mother or 61 00:04:17.740 --> 00:04:23.139 you had to learn on your own and you didn't have as many influencers and 62 00:04:23.540 --> 00:04:27.009 youtubers, like there wasn't a such thing at the time. So I say, 63 00:04:27.170 --> 00:04:30.730 soak up all your resources that you can, especially nowadays, because there's 64 00:04:30.769 --> 00:04:34.930 no excuse for you not to learn anything. You Got Youtubecom Aka, my 65 00:04:35.050 --> 00:04:43.399 dragmother. So you are obviously a very successful person. If you had a 66 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.879 piece of advice for people wanting to be successful at whatever they do, what 67 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:51.240 would that be? I would say it's all about focus. It's all about 68 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:56.550 focusing on whatever you want to do and having a passion. But also the 69 00:04:56.670 --> 00:05:00.990 biggest thing that I would say is take action. Nothing's just going to come 70 00:05:00.189 --> 00:05:04.110 to you and don't be envious of other people. You see other people and 71 00:05:04.189 --> 00:05:08.100 you want it. You have to pick yourself up and work for it before 72 00:05:08.139 --> 00:05:12.220 idea drag. How you even got into the industry is I am a lighting 73 00:05:12.259 --> 00:05:15.980 designer. Wow, yeah, uh Huh. I have my own soot sage 74 00:05:15.980 --> 00:05:19.339 lighting business called dw innovative, a program and set up professional, safe lighting 75 00:05:19.420 --> 00:05:23.209 and and what I do is I go out and I put up the lights 76 00:05:23.290 --> 00:05:26.730 and I do parties and weddings and concerts, like the big lights that move 77 00:05:26.769 --> 00:05:30.129 around and change colors. That's my expertise and that's what I was doing and 78 00:05:30.889 --> 00:05:34.410 ever since I was a little kid, my brother they didn't understand why I 79 00:05:34.569 --> 00:05:40.079 was just so hardcore into lighting and I didn't know at that time that this 80 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:43.759 was going to be a business. And now you know, it brings income. 81 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.000 You know, just by doing what I love to do, and that's 82 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:49.750 lighting. So that would be my advice. You can't sit and wait for 83 00:05:50.389 --> 00:05:56.230 someone to make something happen for you. You briefly talk about negativity and I 84 00:05:56.430 --> 00:06:00.670 know that you've had a lot of your life. You know before the show 85 00:06:00.149 --> 00:06:03.939 and you know after the show aired. How do you deal with that and 86 00:06:04.220 --> 00:06:09.180 how do you ampt yourself up to keep going and be so successful as you 87 00:06:09.220 --> 00:06:13.620 are? It's all about who you surround yourself around. You have to surround 88 00:06:13.660 --> 00:06:16.660 yourself around positive people and people who are going to lift you up. If 89 00:06:16.699 --> 00:06:21.329 you surround yourself around over dramatic people, people who are Catty, it becomes 90 00:06:21.449 --> 00:06:27.009 too much and honestly, you can't surround yourself around that because if you surround 91 00:06:27.089 --> 00:06:30.569 yourself around it, you will be in drama, you will be put in 92 00:06:30.730 --> 00:06:34.079 negativity like, for instance, drag race, was an experience I wasn't truly 93 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:39.399 reading for with when it comes to negativity from a very nice person, you 94 00:06:39.519 --> 00:06:42.319 are very nice, yeah, you're lovely, yeah, and then, you 95 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:44.439 know, I get on a TV show and then I get a lot of 96 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:47.350 hatred and it used to depress me because I like why me? But I 97 00:06:47.430 --> 00:06:50.550 had to realize. You know what, let me focus on my happiness, 98 00:06:50.629 --> 00:06:55.110 because I am so happy and I'm so blessed to be in the position that 99 00:06:55.149 --> 00:06:59.110 I am in right now. So I'm not going to let other people's negativity 100 00:06:59.589 --> 00:07:01.699 bother me or bring me down. That actually leads me into something you would 101 00:07:01.699 --> 00:07:04.819 said. I watch an interview your hey queen. I Love Hey Queen. 102 00:07:04.899 --> 00:07:09.860 You said I have to live my life for the future. Sitting and thinking 103 00:07:09.860 --> 00:07:13.660 about your past so much is not going to get you very far. It's 104 00:07:13.660 --> 00:07:16.529 all about progress. So, in light of everything which you said, what 105 00:07:16.730 --> 00:07:23.449 did you do to continue to progress yourself? I guess in your art it's 106 00:07:23.490 --> 00:07:27.410 one word hustling. I have been working my butt off, even though sometimes 107 00:07:27.449 --> 00:07:29.970 it's not good enough. You know, I was taking money out of my 108 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:33.360 own pocket, flying my own self to La and doing, I mean show 109 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:36.279 after show at the show, back to back to back, trying to keep 110 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:41.680 my face in the spotlight. The more people see you, the more they'll 111 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:45.829 remember you. I don't want to be that Queen a few years down the 112 00:07:45.910 --> 00:07:48.110 road and season fifteen that came out, they're like hold on, which one 113 00:07:48.230 --> 00:07:53.069 is Jaden, even if I'm not the most popular one, and like Princus, 114 00:07:53.310 --> 00:07:56.310 I don't get paid the money that a lot of the other drag race 115 00:07:56.389 --> 00:07:59.420 girls get. For me it's different. You know, I still make all 116 00:07:59.500 --> 00:08:01.779 my costumes. What I like to have designers, absolutely in the future. 117 00:08:01.819 --> 00:08:05.259 That's what I'm looking forward to, is having professional designers to do my own 118 00:08:05.300 --> 00:08:09.180 costumes and sell me some hair. But in the meantime, if I can't 119 00:08:09.379 --> 00:08:13.129 afford it, I'm going to say, you know what, no, I'm 120 00:08:13.170 --> 00:08:16.449 going to do this costume myself because I can make it bigger and better it 121 00:08:16.569 --> 00:08:20.290 will. I won't say better, because sometimes my my designs aren't better, 122 00:08:20.410 --> 00:08:24.569 but I should at least bigger for less money. I guess that's what I'm 123 00:08:24.569 --> 00:08:26.050 trying to say. A couple things that I hear you saying. Is One, 124 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:30.360 that you invested in your challenge, which I think is amazing, and 125 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.279 that's one thing I've always noticed about you, is that you are really hands 126 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.919 on in your process. But the other thing I'm hearing, and that I 127 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:41.870 really want the listeners to pick up on, is that you are not letting 128 00:08:41.950 --> 00:08:46.070 your circumstances define what you're going to do. My favorite part about making my 129 00:08:46.110 --> 00:08:50.389 own garments is when I come around the corner or out of the curtain, 130 00:08:50.509 --> 00:08:54.549 when the spotlight first hit and the audience sees you for the very first time 131 00:08:54.549 --> 00:09:00.539 and they see you're outfit and you get that initial crowd reaction. That's what 132 00:09:00.779 --> 00:09:03.740 makes it work. Wow, it's great that you say that, because I 133 00:09:03.940 --> 00:09:07.379 actually tell a lot of young queens that is what keeps me so in transfer 134 00:09:07.419 --> 00:09:11.490 drags that moment just right when the music started and it's getting doing. He's 135 00:09:11.610 --> 00:09:16.570 so magical. So I'm really glad that you highlighted that because I hope that 136 00:09:16.730 --> 00:09:20.370 people, whatever they do, they will know that they are on their path 137 00:09:20.490 --> 00:09:24.519 and doing the right thing if they have a magical moment like that. So 138 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.360 on the show you had your coming out to your family. Can you talk 139 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:33.960 about what their support meant to you and is that support still around the day 140 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.590 and how that fulfills you in life today? So a little background is I'm 141 00:09:37.710 --> 00:09:41.350 very, very, very close to my family. My Dad and my mom 142 00:09:41.509 --> 00:09:46.389 is separated, but my dad is overly supportive of me as of now. 143 00:09:46.629 --> 00:09:50.149 You know my mom. She is the one I was most worried about, 144 00:09:50.149 --> 00:09:54.019 to be honest. She's very religious and you know. And then I have 145 00:09:54.179 --> 00:09:58.100 three older brothers. I thought my brothers actually, would you know, they 146 00:09:58.100 --> 00:10:01.580 were going to be the ones who didn't like me or like wouldn't talk to 147 00:10:01.620 --> 00:10:05.620 me. Well after it aired, my mom was the one that was, 148 00:10:05.259 --> 00:10:09.730 you know, more kind of like angry and upset, and my brothers were 149 00:10:09.889 --> 00:10:13.690 very, very exciting to the thing that shocked me more than anything it's my 150 00:10:13.850 --> 00:10:18.570 oldest brother, Brian. He was like he called me, he's like hey, 151 00:10:18.649 --> 00:10:20.529 where are you, and I was like, Oh, I'm out of 152 00:10:20.610 --> 00:10:22.679 town. They were just like oh well, oh, I was going to 153 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:26.240 see if you come over for the viewing party. And I said viewing party, 154 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:28.320 and he was like yeah. I was like okay. Well, what 155 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:35.269 are you watching? Football? Like no, because literally, like that's the 156 00:10:35.309 --> 00:10:39.190 only time we get together in the family and watch something football. It was 157 00:10:39.230 --> 00:10:43.549 like no, to watch you like on TV, and I was like what 158 00:10:43.149 --> 00:10:46.429 you know, and it's crazy to me that like they even tuned in to 159 00:10:46.509 --> 00:10:52.460 watch it was crazy my family. They asked me, why are you acting 160 00:10:52.580 --> 00:10:54.980 like that on TV, and I said, well, what do you mean? 161 00:10:54.539 --> 00:10:58.019 They were like you have more of a list, you are moving your 162 00:10:58.100 --> 00:11:01.740 hands, you're acting feminine on TV. Why are you acting like that? 163 00:11:01.820 --> 00:11:07.169 That's not you. And the thing I had to tell them was. Well, 164 00:11:07.370 --> 00:11:11.490 Y'all have known me for x amount of years, but y'all actually truly 165 00:11:11.649 --> 00:11:15.129 don't know that that's always been me. It's just that when I was around 166 00:11:15.169 --> 00:11:18.169 my family, I was more quiet, I didn't use my hands, I 167 00:11:18.370 --> 00:11:20.320 watched the way I talked, to things that I said, and that's been 168 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:26.600 happening literally my entire life. I have always connected with that part of your 169 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:30.559 story. But one thing that I didn't know that I think is super at 170 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.269 least important to me, is that I don't want to say that it's just 171 00:11:33.629 --> 00:11:37.590 in black families, because I feel like every family you have to deal with 172 00:11:37.669 --> 00:11:41.190 a coming out story. But in black families I've always felt a need that 173 00:11:41.269 --> 00:11:45.470 if you were gay or you were feminine, you had to police your body 174 00:11:45.509 --> 00:11:48.620 around them, like how you act and how you move your hands, and 175 00:11:48.059 --> 00:11:54.940 so I didn't ever feel one hundred percent myself until I was able to have 176 00:11:54.139 --> 00:11:58.059 that moment where I was able to say, you know, this is who 177 00:11:58.059 --> 00:12:00.779 I am, and then I just felt like, you know, this whole 178 00:12:00.820 --> 00:12:03.690 other person came out that is super feminine and stuff like that. But I 179 00:12:03.690 --> 00:12:07.529 knew as a child that that wasn't the right thing to do and it's like 180 00:12:07.570 --> 00:12:11.450 you graining you. This is the way a man acts, and one of 181 00:12:11.490 --> 00:12:16.840 the best things about being a drag queen is that it allowed me to discover 182 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.440 myself without any rules. I mean we do have rules in the dry community, 183 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:24.879 but in terms of like gender and you know, how to act, 184 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.120 those rules don't really exist for us. Let's talk about what is next for 185 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:31.470 you. Do you have any siety projects coming up? You know, I 186 00:12:31.990 --> 00:12:37.549 live in Nashville, sin a fee, and this city is pretty monopolized as 187 00:12:37.590 --> 00:12:41.149 far as work for Black Queens. You know, it's just harder to work 188 00:12:41.350 --> 00:12:45.259 as a black queens here. It it you have to work ten times with 189 00:12:45.340 --> 00:12:48.940 hard a lot of black queen are very talented but they've been sitting at home. 190 00:12:48.419 --> 00:12:52.100 Can we talk about that? I find myself here in Minneapolis in the 191 00:12:52.139 --> 00:12:56.899 same struggle, where the game is different for Queens of color. What are 192 00:12:56.940 --> 00:13:01.769 your thoughts and your experience on why that is? Oh my gosh, I 193 00:13:01.809 --> 00:13:03.929 could talk about this for an hour and and a half. Famic, I 194 00:13:03.970 --> 00:13:11.289 can to grow like summarize it in hit point, but like I noticed that 195 00:13:11.450 --> 00:13:16.759 even every single drag ray season that comes out, if you notice, it 196 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.120 seems like the Queens of color in order for them to be a favorite or 197 00:13:20.200 --> 00:13:24.639 succeed, they have to, I mean, jump in and out of hoops, 198 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.590 or they have to be a certain type of black queen. You know 199 00:13:28.750 --> 00:13:31.429 one thing that angered me my season, when it comes to it, as 200 00:13:31.509 --> 00:13:35.269 we were in untook and I was upset at by the Chopski. Some of 201 00:13:35.350 --> 00:13:39.629 it they didn't show, but by that had a major attitude. So when 202 00:13:39.909 --> 00:13:43.580 I went to untook, I like to beat the people in a calm manner. 203 00:13:43.740 --> 00:13:46.220 You know, I'm not a hot head or anything like that. So 204 00:13:46.580 --> 00:13:48.299 when I spoke to her, you know, it's just like I was angry 205 00:13:48.700 --> 00:13:52.779 and you know, I was just like like, I'm going to talk to 206 00:13:52.860 --> 00:13:54.970 her, though, as an adult. So I'm choosing my word so I 207 00:13:56.129 --> 00:14:00.649 don't come off because I don't want to become or be viewed as an angry 208 00:14:00.690 --> 00:14:03.809 black girl, because I'm not. So I'm sitting here and I'm just talking 209 00:14:03.929 --> 00:14:05.809 to her and unsust and I was like hey, violet, like I honestly 210 00:14:05.889 --> 00:14:09.970 felt like you did. Blah, blah, blah, Blah Blah. Well, 211 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:11.759 you know, she kind of come in it back and she was just 212 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:16.320 kind of like nonchalant and blew it off. So I didn't think anything big 213 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:22.080 of it, but some people were commenting online saying who Jaden is so scared 214 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:24.070 of her, she's so scared. Oh, it's a lose lose situation, 215 00:14:24.190 --> 00:14:28.549 because if I would have popped off on her, then y'all have that angry 216 00:14:28.669 --> 00:14:31.669 black girl, the angry black girl. Yes, if I speak to her 217 00:14:33.149 --> 00:14:35.470 calmly and I and I try to say, you know what, let me 218 00:14:35.669 --> 00:14:41.179 not get any emotions and let me try to have a calm, adult, 219 00:14:41.419 --> 00:14:46.740 mature conversation, then it becomes a BH. Well, she's so scared. 220 00:14:46.820 --> 00:14:50.820 Oh, but it also it's like when a non black girl a lot of 221 00:14:50.860 --> 00:14:54.610 times when they get an attitude, people are like yes, like who she 222 00:14:54.769 --> 00:14:56.970 told her, yes, ma'am, and then when a black girl does it, 223 00:14:58.450 --> 00:15:01.009 it's more like, oh my God, really girl, Oh, she's 224 00:15:01.049 --> 00:15:05.289 so angry. You know, it's very frustrating. Have you gotten the now? 225 00:15:05.409 --> 00:15:09.200 You're difficult to work with? Um? Well, not me personally, 226 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:15.919 but I do see that that is a thing that happens and I've seen many 227 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:18.759 other girls as well with it. Oh, they're difficult to work with. 228 00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:20.279 Oh, they're difficult to work with. Some of them are, but there 229 00:15:20.320 --> 00:15:24.110 are a lot of girls who are not difficult to work with. It's just 230 00:15:24.269 --> 00:15:28.750 that y'all have a very low tolerance for certain girls, if that makes it 231 00:15:28.990 --> 00:15:31.269 there, if they're of color, if the yeah, MMM, if there 232 00:15:31.269 --> 00:15:35.620 are cold. It's very frustrating and it's something even off the show. It's 233 00:15:35.700 --> 00:15:39.620 what I did with that's why I don't work at play anymore. When I 234 00:15:39.700 --> 00:15:43.220 was on cast there, I never felt appreciate it not by the crowd, 235 00:15:43.539 --> 00:15:46.899 not Bible Bartenders, not by the step, but by two people in management. 236 00:15:46.940 --> 00:15:50.649 It was like I could never be enough, no matter what I did, 237 00:15:50.809 --> 00:15:54.370 no matter how long I work there. Since two thousand and eight I 238 00:15:54.610 --> 00:15:56.649 was never enough, and that's the way I felt. Do you remember a 239 00:15:56.809 --> 00:16:02.610 specific moment where you said I've had enough and I'm going to find better for 240 00:16:02.769 --> 00:16:06.960 myself? So absolutely. It actually happened after dreg race and it was actually 241 00:16:07.000 --> 00:16:10.399 my last night of being there. If I am having a disagreement with the 242 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:14.080 other person, I like to step in that other person's shoes and say, 243 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:18.830 let me see their side as well and see if I can kind of get 244 00:16:18.909 --> 00:16:22.870 my emotions on on a level to where I can kind of understand. And 245 00:16:22.190 --> 00:16:26.470 you know what, when I was working there, I found myself doing that 246 00:16:26.549 --> 00:16:30.710 all the time and it got to the point where I know they are working. 247 00:16:30.950 --> 00:16:33.500 You know, I told the owner and I said, you know what, 248 00:16:33.659 --> 00:16:37.740 enough is enough in Nashville. There's only one gay club here. You 249 00:16:37.820 --> 00:16:40.740 don't have other options. It's like, well, if you're not working here's 250 00:16:40.779 --> 00:16:42.980 you're not working anywhere else. And it goes back to the thing where I'm 251 00:16:42.980 --> 00:16:47.610 excited about in the future. ME, my drag daughter and my drag sister. 252 00:16:48.009 --> 00:16:49.850 We are pretty much a girl group. We call ourselves the mystic. 253 00:16:51.009 --> 00:16:55.370 We have a website or which is the misfits dragcom and what we're doing is 254 00:16:55.769 --> 00:16:59.690 we're showing Nashville that we could be successful. We started our own brunt shows 255 00:16:59.769 --> 00:17:03.159 over now, over a year ago and we had a full year of sold 256 00:17:03.240 --> 00:17:08.359 out brunches. I mean it's been amazing. When we went in to negotiate, 257 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.640 I sat down with the owners of its place called disconsider, which is 258 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.589 a sidery. It is a all inclusive place. They have like food and 259 00:17:15.750 --> 00:17:21.029 fighter but they wanted a drag brunch there and we stepped in and we've been 260 00:17:21.029 --> 00:17:25.109 selling out those brunches every single month for the past year. Everything has been 261 00:17:25.309 --> 00:17:29.789 so amazing and so great. And the fact of the matter is is we 262 00:17:29.910 --> 00:17:33.059 come full circle with this whole thing. Like we call ourselves misfit because we 263 00:17:33.180 --> 00:17:37.460 didn't fit in in the city, quote unquote, but not because of the 264 00:17:37.539 --> 00:17:40.259 people, not because of the crowd, because the crowd is always loved us. 265 00:17:40.539 --> 00:17:44.410 It's only because of people in management at that one place. But now 266 00:17:44.450 --> 00:17:48.930 that we're gone, look at what we're doing. What I love about that 267 00:17:48.130 --> 00:17:52.970 story is that you did not wait for an opportunity to come to you, 268 00:17:52.089 --> 00:17:55.849 you know, you knocked once on the door and then beat it down and 269 00:17:56.049 --> 00:17:59.960 made it happen. And I think that when it talks about achieving your goals, 270 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:03.559 being successful in life, sometimes that is what it takes. You have 271 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.839 to create your own opportunities for your own path, and don't be scared to 272 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:10.839 do it, because I'm sure it was probably frightening, you know, losing 273 00:18:11.000 --> 00:18:12.910 the Gig that you always knew and then go on into your own thing. 274 00:18:14.109 --> 00:18:17.829 But with all this success, it was definitely the right choice. So do 275 00:18:18.069 --> 00:18:21.349 not be afraid to go out there and make it happen for yourself. Well, 276 00:18:21.390 --> 00:18:23.190 I'll be honest, we were all scared. We were, I mean, 277 00:18:23.230 --> 00:18:26.029 we were so nervous. We already knew that it was going to be 278 00:18:26.109 --> 00:18:30.259 a good a good amount of people. We had a line furtling around the 279 00:18:30.299 --> 00:18:33.579 building and then the flotlight came on and I came out and when I tell 280 00:18:33.619 --> 00:18:37.099 you, it was the most exhilarating thing. And then the following month was 281 00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:40.180 like, Oh, I hope it's just as good as the last month. 282 00:18:40.339 --> 00:18:45.049 And it just proved time and time again, keep working for keep working hard 283 00:18:45.210 --> 00:18:47.930 for what you want to do. It's not going to be easy, but 284 00:18:48.089 --> 00:18:49.529 it's so worth it. An end you. But you have to realize you 285 00:18:49.609 --> 00:18:56.640 have to become a business woman or business a businesswoman had yeah, I want 286 00:18:56.640 --> 00:19:00.000 to ask you one more question. What advice would you have, as who 287 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.599 you are now, to your younger self? Just be yourself more like I 288 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:08.240 feel like I lost out on so many years of my life, you know, 289 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:11.750 pretending to be someone who I wasn't, because I do wish, if 290 00:19:11.750 --> 00:19:15.309 I could take one thing back, I wish that I was out before I 291 00:19:15.430 --> 00:19:18.789 even got on direct but who knows? I needed a story line, so 292 00:19:18.950 --> 00:19:25.940 who knows me if I didn't have it? So thanks, Rupaul, and 293 00:19:26.220 --> 00:19:30.700 what a beautiful, beautiful storyline it is. Thank you, so much for 294 00:19:30.819 --> 00:19:33.539 sharing. If you want more jading, you can follow her at Jaden fierce 295 00:19:33.579 --> 00:19:38.009 on instagram. Yes, and also, if you guys can follow our girl 296 00:19:38.130 --> 00:19:41.849 group misfits drag, we also have a podcast coming up there as well. 297 00:19:42.250 --> 00:19:47.650 So yeah, check out the MISSTITCH DRECOM and I'm really excited about that. 298 00:19:47.769 --> 00:19:51.170 So if you guys follow that, that would be a huge blessing. I 299 00:19:51.809 --> 00:19:56.240 definitely am gonna Follow and when Miss Rona decides to give us a break, 300 00:19:56.279 --> 00:19:57.880 honey, I'm going to come check out the show for sure. I cannot 301 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:02.599 wait to see it absolutely. Thank you so much, Dadd for coming to 302 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:04.960 snack size and I hope you stay safe and healthy, and thank you, 303 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:08.390 snacks for listening. We will see you all next time. 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