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Be An Ally

Be An Ally

In this episode, Minneapolis based Drag Queen, Lala Luzious chats discusses life in Minneapolis after the murder of George Floyd and how one can be an ally to people of color.   Need another snack? Head on over to   If you are a new...


In this episode, Minneapolis based Drag Queen, Lala Luzious chats discusses life in Minneapolis after the murder of George Floyd and how one can be an ally to people of color.   Need another snack? Head on over to www.snacksizepodcast.com   If you are a new listener to Snack Size, we would love to hear from you! Don’t be afraid to say hello at lala@snacksizepodcast.com   Follow Snack Size: The Podcast on Twitter: @podcast_snack  Follow Lala on Instagram: @lalaluzious _______________________________ Intro and Interlude Music for "Snack Size"  is Lioness (Instrumental) by DayFox https://soundcloud.com/dayfox
Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:05.080 Hey, what's up world? Welcome to snack size, the podcast that will 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:09.830 drag you into your most fabulous life. I'm your host, La La Luscious, 3 00:00:09.869 --> 00:00:13.669 also known as the snack of the twin cities. I decided for myself 4 00:00:13.789 --> 00:00:16.589 that I can be whatever I want to be. So I decided to be 5 00:00:16.789 --> 00:00:20.629 a drag queen, and if I can live my dreams, you can to. 6 00:00:21.070 --> 00:00:24.940 The time has come to believing yourself enough to turn your ideas into more 7 00:00:24.980 --> 00:00:27.980 than mere words, and, no matter what you are doing in life or 8 00:00:28.019 --> 00:00:31.500 where you want to go, I want to help you get there fabulously. 9 00:00:32.020 --> 00:00:41.530 Our ten minutes starts now. Hey, snacks, we're here at episode ten 10 00:00:41.770 --> 00:00:45.850 and our final episode of season one of snack size. I do want to 11 00:00:45.890 --> 00:00:49.890 apologize for the delay. As you know, I live in Minneapolis and after 12 00:00:49.969 --> 00:00:53.920 the murder of George Floyd and surrounding events, life has not been normal in 13 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.799 Minneapolis, but I am really proud of the people in my city for standing 14 00:00:57.840 --> 00:01:02.640 up against inequality and racism in America. So thank you for your patients and 15 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:06.469 for continuing on this journey with me. Today, I want to talk to 16 00:01:06.549 --> 00:01:08.750 my white listeners about how to be an ally to a person of color. 17 00:01:10.349 --> 00:01:14.189 If you are a person of color listening to this episode, this advice isn't 18 00:01:14.189 --> 00:01:17.590 going to shock you, but maybe it can be something you can share with 19 00:01:17.629 --> 00:01:21.379 your friends who are looking to be a better ally to you. It would 20 00:01:21.420 --> 00:01:25.140 be impossible for me to list all the ways you can be an active allied 21 00:01:25.260 --> 00:01:29.180 to a person of color and just a short ten minute podcast, so I've 22 00:01:29.219 --> 00:01:33.090 decided to select a few things I find to be important. I say this 23 00:01:33.329 --> 00:01:38.010 because I encourage you to continue to learn and grow as an ally outside of 24 00:01:38.090 --> 00:01:41.569 this podcast, and if you do want to talk more about it with me, 25 00:01:42.090 --> 00:01:46.290 please email me at Lala at snack size podcastcom and we can have a 26 00:01:46.409 --> 00:01:51.079 respectful and open discussion. I want to start by asking you a question. 27 00:01:51.680 --> 00:01:55.439 When it comes to racism and equality, is your heart in the right place? 28 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.439 Do you truly want to be an allied to people of Color? Before 29 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:02.629 you answer, please note this is a different question than are you racist? 30 00:02:04.109 --> 00:02:07.509 The difference is is that it is easy to simply not be racist, but 31 00:02:07.710 --> 00:02:14.150 allies are anti racist. That means they are actively taking a stand against injustice 32 00:02:14.229 --> 00:02:19.060 every single day. So if you are listening to a podcast about how to 33 00:02:19.139 --> 00:02:22.620 be an ally to people of Color, hosted by a black drag queen. 34 00:02:23.219 --> 00:02:27.500 I'd be willing to bet that you aren't racist, so I'm not going to 35 00:02:27.580 --> 00:02:30.689 tell you why it would be bad if you were, because I can guess 36 00:02:30.889 --> 00:02:34.409 that you weren't. So now it really is a matter of if you are 37 00:02:34.409 --> 00:02:38.330 anti racist. So that's why I'm asking. Is Your Heart in the right 38 00:02:38.490 --> 00:02:42.289 place and do you truly want to be an ally, because the road to 39 00:02:42.370 --> 00:02:46.960 ending racism and finding true equality is going to have all types of obstacles, 40 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:50.919 but if your heart is in the right place, it is unlikely that you 41 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.159 will find yourself on the wrong side of this struggle. Now, just because 42 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:58.280 your heart is in the right place doesn't mean you don't have things to learn, 43 00:02:58.750 --> 00:03:01.870 ways to grow or responsibilities. Is a white ally in terms of lifting 44 00:03:01.909 --> 00:03:06.229 up people of Color. But what I can tell you is that if you 45 00:03:06.389 --> 00:03:09.270 know your heart is in the right place, you already have the strongest weapon 46 00:03:09.389 --> 00:03:14.460 for this fight, and that is love. While I want to teach you 47 00:03:14.500 --> 00:03:16.939 some things you should do to be an ally, if there is ever a 48 00:03:17.139 --> 00:03:22.659 situation where you don't know what to do, listen to your heart and it 49 00:03:22.819 --> 00:03:27.169 will guide you. It may guide you to a friend to talk to or 50 00:03:27.250 --> 00:03:30.250 maybe a book that will educate you, or even just that voice inside that 51 00:03:30.370 --> 00:03:36.969 says, Hey, this isn't right, I should say something. Knowing what 52 00:03:37.129 --> 00:03:40.370 is in your heart is the first step to becoming an ally. The next 53 00:03:40.370 --> 00:03:45.240 thing I want to discuss is white privilege, what it means and how it 54 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:50.879 works in our society today. First, let's define white privilege. White privilege 55 00:03:50.960 --> 00:03:54.990 is referred to as the societal privilege that benefits white people over non white people. 56 00:03:55.909 --> 00:04:00.469 One thing I hear from people who don't understand white privilege is they seem 57 00:04:00.550 --> 00:04:04.150 to think the concept implies that they haven't experienced challenges in life because they are 58 00:04:04.270 --> 00:04:10.099 white. That is not at all what white privilege is. Why privilege means 59 00:04:10.139 --> 00:04:13.340 that if you are white, the color of your skin won't be one of 60 00:04:13.379 --> 00:04:16.060 the things holding you back in this world. Now, if you are listening 61 00:04:16.100 --> 00:04:19.660 to this and you are a white person, it is highly possible you got 62 00:04:19.819 --> 00:04:24.769 really defensive. As I use the term white privilege, I want you to 63 00:04:24.930 --> 00:04:30.410 know that having white privilege and acknowledging it is not racist. Let me say 64 00:04:30.449 --> 00:04:35.569 that again. Having white privilege and recognizing it is not racist. However, 65 00:04:35.689 --> 00:04:40.199 once you recognize that you have white privilege, it is how you use it 66 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:45.360 that determines whether or not you are racist. White privilege exists because of historic 67 00:04:45.439 --> 00:04:49.959 racism, prejudice and inequality, but today white privilege, when recognized correctly, 68 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:56.430 has the power to overturn systematic racism. On the other hand, it also 69 00:04:56.470 --> 00:05:00.389 has the power to uphold it. As well. As a white ally, 70 00:05:00.870 --> 00:05:03.910 you get to decide how you want to use your privilege. If you choose 71 00:05:03.910 --> 00:05:08.740 to use your white privilege as a weapon to fight racism, that you are 72 00:05:08.819 --> 00:05:13.139 doing the much needed work that must be done to change your quality and race 73 00:05:13.180 --> 00:05:17.779 issues in this world. Learn when to listen, when to amplify and when 74 00:05:17.860 --> 00:05:24.129 to speak up. When people of Color speak to their experiences of oppression, 75 00:05:24.529 --> 00:05:29.610 it's important for white people not to dominate the conversation or question those experiences, 76 00:05:30.449 --> 00:05:34.170 but you can use your privilege to amplify those voices. There are also times 77 00:05:34.209 --> 00:05:39.319 when white people who should speak up. If you hear racist remarks, speak 78 00:05:39.319 --> 00:05:43.600 up. If you see opportunities to educate people about race, do so. 79 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.160 As an ally, your privilege can be a tool to reach people who may 80 00:05:47.199 --> 00:05:51.550 be more likely to listen to you or relate to your journey and understanding your 81 00:05:51.589 --> 00:05:58.870 own relationship to race and white privilege. When confronted with race issues, especially 82 00:05:58.910 --> 00:06:02.629 an accusation of being races, I hear why people say two things. The 83 00:06:02.750 --> 00:06:08.500 first is I don't see color. The second is I have black friends. 84 00:06:09.060 --> 00:06:13.379 These statements, although they may support that someone does not have a biased against 85 00:06:13.379 --> 00:06:17.139 someone because of their race, are both in sensitive and ignorant statements. When 86 00:06:17.220 --> 00:06:20.850 someone says I don't see color, what they think they are saying is that 87 00:06:20.930 --> 00:06:25.810 they don't judge someone based on the color of their skin. However, what 88 00:06:25.970 --> 00:06:30.529 people of Color here is I am ignoring your race because it makes me more 89 00:06:30.649 --> 00:06:34.279 comfortable to do so. That is not a healthy viewpoint for you or any 90 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:39.160 of the people of color in your life. For me, my blackness is 91 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.399 a part of who I am, so it is not possible for someone to 92 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.319 accept me and not see my color. If you want to be an ally 93 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.629 to people of color, never ever use a phrase I don't see color again. 94 00:06:50.470 --> 00:06:55.269 And then there is the other statement, I have black friends. If 95 00:06:55.269 --> 00:06:59.629 you have black friends or friends of any color, that is awesome. However, 96 00:07:00.310 --> 00:07:03.660 having friends of color does not make you immune to ignorance or attitudes rooted 97 00:07:03.660 --> 00:07:06.819 in racism. It does not mean that you don't need to do the work 98 00:07:06.939 --> 00:07:11.939 to end racism and inequality and just rely on your friends of color to keep 99 00:07:11.980 --> 00:07:15.889 you woe. In fact, if you want to be both a great friend 100 00:07:15.009 --> 00:07:18.329 and an ally, then you will be happy to fight for the equality of 101 00:07:18.410 --> 00:07:24.089 people you care about. Again, it's great that you have a diverse friend 102 00:07:24.170 --> 00:07:29.529 group, but when it comes to ending systematic racism, it doesn't mean you 103 00:07:29.649 --> 00:07:32.360 have been racist, nor does it mean that you have less work to do 104 00:07:32.600 --> 00:07:36.800 as a white ally. Just like the first statement I mentioned, do not 105 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:42.959 use your friends as a reason for not being racist. My next advice for 106 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:47.029 being an ally is to learn from your mistakes. Some people are intentionally racist, 107 00:07:47.389 --> 00:07:51.790 but some people do something or say something racist on accident. They didn't 108 00:07:51.790 --> 00:07:56.750 realize what they were doing was offensive because they hadn't been educated enough to know 109 00:07:56.829 --> 00:08:01.139 any better. Even if this is the case, it doesn't make the action 110 00:08:01.180 --> 00:08:05.019 any less wrong. Why? People sometimes feel that innocent intentions make them racist 111 00:08:05.220 --> 00:08:09.379 and they should not be held to the same accountability as those who are intentionally 112 00:08:09.420 --> 00:08:15.209 racist. It does not matter what your intentions were, it's all racism. 113 00:08:15.769 --> 00:08:18.810 So my question to you, if you are one of those people who just 114 00:08:18.930 --> 00:08:22.689 lacks education and understanding. What are you doing to fix that? Are you 115 00:08:22.930 --> 00:08:26.639 self motivated to learning how to do better by the people of Color in your 116 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:31.600 life? Mistakes happen and while you can and should apologize if you did or 117 00:08:31.679 --> 00:08:37.279 said something inadvertently racist, the test of if you are truly sorry is in 118 00:08:37.360 --> 00:08:41.279 the work that is done after you realize what you did was wrong. I've 119 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:43.509 learned that in any area of my life, not just the topic we are 120 00:08:43.590 --> 00:08:48.669 discussing now, that nothing can be built on good intentions and apologies. It's 121 00:08:48.750 --> 00:08:54.110 just never been a good foundation for change. However, great things can happen 122 00:08:54.110 --> 00:09:00.419 when we educate, communicate and hold each other accountable. We are human. 123 00:09:00.740 --> 00:09:05.179 Mistakes happen. In fact, if mistakes didn't happen, it means nothing is 124 00:09:05.259 --> 00:09:09.009 changing. I can't speak for all people of Color, but speaking for myself 125 00:09:09.049 --> 00:09:13.490 as a black man, I can say that I can forgive someone who does 126 00:09:13.570 --> 00:09:16.970 the word to educate themselves then someone who just says I'll do better next time. 127 00:09:18.690 --> 00:09:22.169 Learning from your mistakes is a crucial part of understanding and ending racism. 128 00:09:24.090 --> 00:09:28.240 To understand racism, you need to hear it from someone who is suffering from 129 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.960 it. So believe me when I say that I appreciate that you listen to 130 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.120 this episode. What I have discussed here are just a few things you can 131 00:09:35.159 --> 00:09:39.789 do to be an allied to people of color. I encourage you to continue 132 00:09:39.870 --> 00:09:43.389 to educate yourself on racism and how to end it. To recap what we've 133 00:09:43.389 --> 00:09:48.389 covered here, the first is make sure your heart is in the right place, 134 00:09:48.190 --> 00:09:54.580 recognize your privilege, amplify voices of color, don't ignore someone's race and, 135 00:09:54.700 --> 00:09:58.899 last but not least, learn from your mistakes. No matter where you 136 00:10:00.019 --> 00:10:03.019 are in the world, the fight against racism and the struggle for equality are 137 00:10:03.059 --> 00:10:09.169 far from over, so believe me when I say that your words and actions 138 00:10:09.490 --> 00:10:13.529 matter. It is essential that we continually reflect on what we can do to 139 00:10:13.649 --> 00:10:18.009 address racial inequality. To end this episode, I'd like to leave you with 140 00:10:18.090 --> 00:10:24.000 a quote from Dr Martin Luther King Jr. He said human progress is neither 141 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:30.000 automatic nor inevitable. Every step to the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering 142 00:10:30.200 --> 00:10:37.149 and struggle, the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals. Until next 143 00:10:37.149 --> 00:10:41.710 time, see you later. Snack. Hey Snack, I hope you enjoyed 144 00:10:41.750 --> 00:10:45.029 this episode of snack size. I also want to let you know that this 145 00:10:45.309 --> 00:10:50.659 podcast is now on iheartradio. 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